Do you know why Indian rain dances always worked?
Because the Indians would keep dancing until it rained.
And that is why I like to read what Sherman Alexie writes.
Creating a sustainable human culture, a rough draft premix
and a companion to the site,
My blue puzzle piece, here
Because the Indians would keep dancing until it rained.
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These days people seek knowledge, not wisdom.
Knowledge is of the past;
wisdom is of the future.
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Here's a question -- is it real trolling if the person actually holds that attitude, or is it real trolling if the person doesn't hold that attitude in reality, but pretends to just in order to get people wound up? Or, are both of those "real trolling", just different flavors?
I put "real trolling" in quotes to parallel your earlier use of quotes and to suggest a pun on the commenter's nickname.
But raising a question about the psychology of trolls does strike me as relevant to the original topic. As I recall from back in the days of Internet yore, early on the terms "troll" and "trolling" supposedly signified game-playing behavior, a kind of sport, or sometimes performance art. But it seems to me that was a flimsy cover story from the start. The behavior was unhealthy then and it still is now.
As you suggest, these days I don't really try to distinguish trolling as a supposed game from functionally equivalent harmful behaviors. When Troll Spectrum Behavior occurs, I do think it's important that someone demonstrate a healthier counterexample. Accidental quasi-trolls might learn if offered an opportunity, and some healthy social reinforcement helps to maintain a sense of community. Beyond that, of course, no feeding. :)
It seems to me Troll Spectrum Behavior might be related to a problem that I see underlying the topic of Zuska's post, and that I see underlying a number of social problems: a widespread inability to perceive harm.
Filtering out perceptions of harm, injustice, exploitation, pain, and suffering; lacking empathy or actively suppressing empathy; ignoring the consequences of our behavior; these things seem like enablers in mechanisms that create further harm. I find that disturbing.
I find no value in trying to distinguish the varieties of Troll Spectrum Behavior (as mentioned recently at Zuska's blog). It doesn't matter to me whether attention-seeking and game-playing behaviors stem from conscious or un/subconscious motivation. The consequences are pretty much the same, so my (lack of) response is pretty much the same.
I do think it's important to demonstrate mature interactions instead. That fosters situations in which social learning can occur. But that doesn't require feeding attention appetites.
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Looking at the calendar today, and looking at some of my usual daily web site reading, I am reminded that today is not a good day to try to be serious.
Since I try to emphasize serious, weighty matters here, I definitely will not post anything new today.
Definitely. Not.
Um, er, what? Oh, I see. Doh!
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Understanding is a kind of ecstasy.
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How do we become motivated to understand?
How do we become interested in understanding ... oh, I dunno, any idea, something, anything?
How do we become interested in learning?
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When I was a kid I often built things from Lego blocks. I kept my unassembled Legos in a gallon-sized plastic bucket. Whenever I began a new Lego building project, I would sit down and dump the entire bucket of blocks all over the floor in front of me. Scattering a gallon of Legos takes up considerable floor space, but it seemed the easiest way to find the pieces I wanted to assemble. That, and they made a satisfying whoosh, roar, and clatter as they tumbled out.
I knew folks who took a similar approach to assembling large picture puzzles. I have several essay projects that I intend to construct here eventually. Since I consider this blog as a staging area for my other web site, I thought it might be helpful to dump my bucket of Legos here so that we can easily find the building blocks for future essays. So, here we go: (Whoosh! Roar ... clatter)
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What I fear is that some writers are trying to inspire a movement to actively cause a hard collapse
How would we live if beginnings justify means?
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Misery loves company.
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Some people like to stand on soapboxes and shout loudly at me. They like to proclaim that they have my best interests at heart.
Personally, I prefer consistently repeated behaviors by people who demonstrate that they have my best interests at heart.
Just sayin'
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He was constantly reminded of how startlingly different a place the world was when viewed from a point only three feet to the left.
(Douglas Adams)
Most models are wrong, but some are useful.
(George Box, paraphrased)
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If it ends with -ism it seems likely to become a problem, for someone, someday.
That's been my observation and experience.
Ideologies. Labels. Imaginary boundaries. Is. Is not! An illusion of information.
We bundle up some things we know believe, slap a label on the bundle, and talk as if everything worth saying can be delivered in a bag with a label. Eventually Later Soon we begin to talk as if only the label matters, as if everything we need to know can be conveyed merely by the label. Sometimes we seem to forget what we put in the bag, we're so busy announcing its label.
I thought about calling that phenomenon “bagism”, but someone else got there first. Same with labelism. Even ismism.
Good grief, what's left?
Well, how about breaking that habit?
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(Some thoughts under development ... )
Ideas, when they form and float through our minds, are just ideas.
Expressing ideas, the act of communicating, is behavior.
We like to believe that our writing, our speaking, our conversations, we like to believe we deal only with ideas. But to me that seems incomplete. It seems to me we often react to the behaviors that we perceive as much or even more than the ideas wrapped in those behaviors.
Words matter. Words matter because words create consequences. Communicating with words is a behavior.
And behaviors create consequences.
See also:
Show me, don't tell me
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A sustainable culture begins with a healthy, sustainable attitude
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I've mentioned this book several times recently in comments elsewhere. It occurred to me that I should mention it at my own web site, too:
Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business
by Neil Postman
If TV news and talk radio leave you feeling something other than well-informed, Postman's little book might explain why.
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“While we debate ...
we're running the experiment ...
and we're in the test tube.”
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Picture a group of people, a dozen or more, standing in a circle, looking outward. They stand shoulder to shoulder, backs to the center, facing away from each other.
Many of them have telescopes, some have binoculars. They all have clipboards and notebooks and lots of pens and pencils in the pockets of their white coats.
They look outward at the universe and declare proudly, "From here we can see everything!"
To the folks outside the circle, however, that comment seems kind of odd. From outside the circle it's easy to see something that's hidden from the proud observers.
From outside the circle, we can see inside the circle. We can observe the observers. We can see their blind spot.
To be wise is to see ... more. To be wise is to see ... that something is missing. To be wise is to see ... that there's probably more to see.
Within the circle of observers, to be wise is to turn around.
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Some things only become visible when we become ready to see them.
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Here's an example of someone who uses water to put out a fire:
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This is an excellent illustration of a way to make a wise, prudent decision when the stakes are high and the consequences are severe.
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I've noticed some people like to advocate "fighting fire with fire". Their contribution to conversation is to declare, with absolute confidence,
Ya gotta fight fire with fire!
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